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Comment on Are Biblical Languages Necessary for (Postmodern) Ministry? by Dan Hauge

Dan Hauge — Fri, 23 Jul 2010 04:36:15 +0000

It seems to me that gaining at least a basic reading competency in the original languages is a very “postmodern” thing to do–at least in the sense that trying our best to encounter and learn from another culture and way of thinking is a valuable thing to do. As anyone who has spent time learning any other language knows, it is an art of learning not just new vocabulary, but different ways of framing our thoughts. Differences between languages often reflect deeper cultural values and habits of thinking (although this reflection can also be overemphasized), and while we can never truly enter into the “horizon” of a different people from a different time, our approaches toward reading and writing in the original languages of Scripture can only help us engage these texts in a humbler and more enriching way.

Comment on Are Biblical Languages Necessary for (Postmodern) Ministry? by elderj

elderj — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:50:40 +0000

I’m not educated in these things, but I wonder… once the language has been translated why is it so important to study in the original language? After all the gospels themselves are translations since Jesus likely spoke mostly in Aramaic. I seriously don’t know what I think about the issue.

Comment on Are Biblical Languages Necessary for (Postmodern) Ministry? by rob

rob — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:00:43 +0000

On of my fellow ThM students at Regent was a pastor doing a thesis on an obscure point of grammar in Amos. I hope that, unlike me, he has now finished! But that is to say… it can be done. I looked up Piper’s academic background and see that he himself has put in the work (PhD in NT). But I’m confused as to how an intensively academic exposure to the NT could land you in Calvinism. ha ha.

Comment on The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap by Wayne

Wayne — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 23:10:06 +0000

@steph
I agree Steph – I often wonder about the at-times directionless small groups that we have – arranged around topics – some without a doubt very necessary – and yet the endless topical studies strike me as a bit aimless and influenced by the wind of trend.

So I like the idea of small group for the purpose of being the church – and the gooyuk has always done that well – and I believe can be even more affective w/ the 2nd gen.

Some would even go so far as to consider this cell church or house church – I wouldn’t go that far but just see it as a church that takes small groups seriously. Oh and I got your email – give me a few days to mull it over

Comment on The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap by steph

steph — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:01:33 +0000

This is really interesting and I appreciate you including these thoughts on your blog (I also hope you’re feeling better!) I’ve always referred to the “gooyuk” in concept because it is what my kore-am church in chicago practiced, but I didn’t know it was an actual philosophy with a name. I do see immense value in it, esp. it’s potential in our current church where there are not enough small groups to satisfy everyone (e.g. everyone is being too darn picky about all of the different small group themes). I’ve often posited to my husband that our old model back in Chicago would just make things “easier” and would call for a more integrated church.

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Comment on The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap by Jay Johnson

Jay Johnson — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 01:29:12 +0000

Glad you’re back, thankful you all came through it all safe.

Comment on The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap by Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:53:02 +0000

Hey Steve – I share your feelings.

The critique is that asian churchgoers often talk about being missional but really only desire to perpetuate ethnic enclaves. I’m willing to give people the benefit of the doubt that the right desires are there, but the pastors are often unable to equip them. In part I blame that on education.

For too many and too often theological orthodoxy doesn’t lead to orthopraxy. we have too many highly educated asian pastors with very little vision for social engagement – I wish a little more critical pedagogy were intro’d into our seminary curriculums.

Comment on The Missional Korean-American Church, and East Coast Re-cap by Steve

Steve — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:31:42 +0000

Which KAm church(es) did you visit, Maranatha Grace? I don’t see why any AA churches can’t be missional, as long as the church is driven by the purpose of embodying the missio dei and not veer toward satisfying the sociological needs of people which is typically what these churches do (from my own experience)

Comment on Are Korean Churches Capable of Being Missional? by Wayne

Wayne — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:32:01 +0000

oh such a good question… thoughts anyone?

Comment on Are Korean Churches Capable of Being Missional? by randplaty

randplaty — Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:31:25 +0000

Does being missional presuppose being cross cultural?

Comment on GIMME A SHOUT by Wayne

Wayne — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:52:46 +0000

@justin
Hey Justin – great to connect here… I must confess it took me a while to figure out what “DE” stood for but I got it – and we may or may not be too far from you guys when I’m outta school. Anywayz checked out the site and I like the stuff I see – keep on truckin

As per “theology of diversity” I’m deep into that stuff, I wouldn’t even know where to begin. But I do blog about it often here, if not in those same exact words.

God bless u in your endeavors,
Wayne

Comment on GIMME A SHOUT by justin

justin — Tue, 08 Jun 2010 02:58:10 +0000

Wayne, stumbled onto your blog while looking for “a theology of diversity” around the web.
My wife and I are planting a multi-ethnic (not melting pot) church in Wilmington, DE (better known as that place where you send your credit card bills to). We love what we do and God is really good to us. I was wondering if you have touched on this topic / area any further since Aug. 2008 which was the last blog topic that I saw. I’m white (dad’s from brooklyn, mom’s from virginia, ancestors are from Canada / England) and the city is a mix of black, white and latino and I love the instances to help understand that God made them different on purpose. I think this might be a key to figuring out God’s thoughts on diversity.
Shoot me a line and let me know if you’ve reached any further into the topic and what you’ve heard. Thanks.
btw, your blog is hilarious – the Flushing school pics and convo’s were hilarious. bless u and your upcoming graduation! – jb

Comment on Maybe We’ll All Be Catholics Again Someday by Hoanyeon

Hoanyeon — Tue, 01 Jun 2010 05:43:23 +0000

Hello, I stumbled across your blog when trying to get an insight into the Asian Evangelical blogosphere. As a Catholic, I can answer question and I believe that this move is not too revolutionary. The Catholic Church does have a history in providing for groups of Christians outside the fold (mostly Eastern Orthodox) who wish to reunite. For instance, when the Ruthenians and Ukranian Orthodox at the Union of Brest in 1595 were reunited to Rome, Rome allowed them to maintain their married priest, liturgical traditions, omit “Filioque” in the Creed, and even the Julian calendar.

Comment on Lesslie Newbigin on Trinity Sunday – How Do You Preach the Trinity? by Wayne

Wayne — Sun, 30 May 2010 23:29:13 +0000

Here’s some good thoughts on how to “apply” or “preach” Trinity Sunday:

http://blog.beliefnet.com/jesuscreed/2010/05/trinity-sunday.html