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Remembering Clark Pinnock: (Predestination Vs. Free Will)

August 22nd, 2010 Leave a comment Go to comments

I posted this almost a year ago and am re-posting it in light of the loss of Clark Pinnock. Yes, a loss. While I can’t stand on the same ground as his Open Theism, I’ve found in him (and great stories about him – read below) a pious, humble expression of the faith. Orthodox or not, the impression I have is the man walked humbly with his God. So here’s the re-post.

5670_1_ftc_dp Been reading this book again and synthesizing some of the BIG arguments – that go beyond just the free will thing… Norm Geisler says at one point in his ongoing feud w/ Clark Pinnock that the bigger issue here is Christian theism – how we view God. So yes it talks about free will but even more, the very nature of God. It’s a big thing. What interests me in this technical discussion is the ongoing Geisler / Pinnock feud. I dunno if there even is one but I know Geisler withdrew from the Evangelical Theological Society because of Pinnock and since then who knows what happened. They were always at odds. But that little feud is symptomatic of a bigger historic one, bear with me as I attempt to synthesize this ages-old clash:

The bigger themes:

  • Predestination vs. Free Will
  • Greek theology vs. non-Greek
  • classic theism vs. open theism
  • conservative theo vs. liberal theo

Some of my colleagues have called for a reconsideration of classic theology as it has been framed in the West – stemming all the way back to Europe. While I understand the socio-political framework of this challenge (striving for more non-white, non-power, non-West readings) I think this is calling for more than we can handle. It hearkens back to the Athens and Jerusalem question – that is to say, our theology is more (inextricably) Western than we realize. To extract an essential and pure Christian alloy from the Greek fathers is  to dance on untenable ground; and many who have done so from the vocal minority have suffered disassociation.

In conclusion – this is not a power struggle, rather it is a tearing apart of the fabric that has become interwoven with our faith. Again the question is posited: Is there an essential Christian faith that has nothign to do with the West?

  1. November 28th, 2009 at 02:02 | #1

    Giesler was out of control at what I fondly recall as the “Atlanta Heresy Trials” in 2002. I was there and it was embarrassing. He passed out six pages of Pinnock quotes on photocopies. These were placed by mysterious volunteers in every seminar room. Then he stood before everyone at the open mic during the hearing and demanded that Pinnock “recant” them all. Yes, he actually used that word. To his great frustration the official issue came down to one statement of Pinnocks, which Pinnock said he would change in a subsequent edition of the book in question (Most Moved Mover, if I remember right). When I heard the next day the Geisler had withdrawn his membership, I thought, “good riddance”. The guy takes all the fun out of fundamentalism. Or maybe it’s all the “mental”. In my opinion he should not feature in any serious theological discussion.

  2. gee lowe
    November 28th, 2009 at 09:12 | #2

    Interesting story, rob, thanks.
    Orthodoxy is no guarantee for spirituality.

  3. November 28th, 2009 at 11:54 | #3

    @gee lowe
    indeed; if only it were so easy

    @rob
    What I find SO interesting is how Pinnock is consistently portrayed in this ongoing feud – almost sheepish, almost contrite, lamb-like. I don’t hear of him getting argumentative or fighting back; rather he seems to concede to Geisler’s wishes. Indeed, despite orthodoxy (or a lack of); who is more “spiritual” here? At any rate, his Most Moved Mover sounds fascinating – I can see his refutation of Aristotelian / Aquinian philos just in the title – his premise of a God who is “moved” by our plight but also simultaneously “movable” to an open future, a premise I can only agree with half of.

    I can see that you were @ that original meeting of the ETS when everything went down… as I understand it is open to all with a MTh or equivalent… which I have some more questions for you next time I see you – tomorrow? btw I like your fun + mental wordplay

  4. August 27th, 2010 at 11:03 | #4

    This, from over at Regent’s website:

    “I want to inform you that I am now in middle stage Alzheimer’s. I will not be able to do my writing etc. I am 73 years now, and I’ve enjoyed my biblical three score and ten. I am not bitter. I have had a good life. I’ll meet you over Jordan if not before. You are free to make this news known.” – Pinnock

    http://regent-college.edu/about_regent/news_story.php?ID=20

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